Calgary could tank like Edmonton did but learn from their greed and not do it for ten years. Keep it to 3-4 years and then bring in the vets to create the winning culture. I get sick and tired of the anti tankers who always used Edmonton as a reason not to do it and also that we have to create this new style of play NOW! It’s f we can create this culture this year why can’t we in 5 years from now? I’m sick of cheering for a mediocre team. I was raised in the 80’s a rabid Flames fan and never would have guessed the Gilmore trade would send us into a 34 year slump.
The weird thing about Flames history is that in the Fletcher and Treliving regimes they made some incredible value picks -- with the former, MacInnis, Nieuwendyk, Fleury, Hull, Suter, Roberts, Makarov is an amazing haul outside the top 10 and mostly outside the first round -- but depending on how much blame you put on the organization for Bennett Tkachuk is the only top 10 pick who isn't somewhere on the on the disappointment-to-disaster spectrum.
Yes, that's definitely the other part of it. Too many bad but not bad enough teams.
I would love to see someone do a deep dive into the late 90s/early aughts, which were a crucial missed opportunity two ways. Brian Sutter wasn't a bad coach per se but he was a terrible fit in that 1)he got enough out of a poor roster to keep from finishing in the bottom 5 while 2)being impatient with talented young players like Nylander. The organization then kind of got a reprieve when the former 11th overall pick they got for Nieuwendyk turned into a genuine franchise player, only they made two dreadful coaching hires which among other things resulted in the best playmaking C to come into the organization since Gilmour to be traded for a $5 Popeye's gift card. They came close to a championship by hiring Darryl once but that era could have easily been a lot more successful with some better choices the previous decade.
Calgary could tank like Edmonton did but learn from their greed and not do it for ten years. Keep it to 3-4 years and then bring in the vets to create the winning culture. I get sick and tired of the anti tankers who always used Edmonton as a reason not to do it and also that we have to create this new style of play NOW! It’s f we can create this culture this year why can’t we in 5 years from now? I’m sick of cheering for a mediocre team. I was raised in the 80’s a rabid Flames fan and never would have guessed the Gilmore trade would send us into a 34 year slump.
The weird thing about Flames history is that in the Fletcher and Treliving regimes they made some incredible value picks -- with the former, MacInnis, Nieuwendyk, Fleury, Hull, Suter, Roberts, Makarov is an amazing haul outside the top 10 and mostly outside the first round -- but depending on how much blame you put on the organization for Bennett Tkachuk is the only top 10 pick who isn't somewhere on the on the disappointment-to-disaster spectrum.
One of the major issues for CGY is just a general lack of top-10 picks throughout the org's history. Off the top of my head:
Tkachuk, Monahan, Bennett, Tkaczuk, Fata, Phaneuf, Krahn, Nystrom, Stillman.
I think that's it? Only Bennett inside the top-4. Some big misses there for sure, but it just so few at-bats.
Yes, that's definitely the other part of it. Too many bad but not bad enough teams.
I would love to see someone do a deep dive into the late 90s/early aughts, which were a crucial missed opportunity two ways. Brian Sutter wasn't a bad coach per se but he was a terrible fit in that 1)he got enough out of a poor roster to keep from finishing in the bottom 5 while 2)being impatient with talented young players like Nylander. The organization then kind of got a reprieve when the former 11th overall pick they got for Nieuwendyk turned into a genuine franchise player, only they made two dreadful coaching hires which among other things resulted in the best playmaking C to come into the organization since Gilmour to be traded for a $5 Popeye's gift card. They came close to a championship by hiring Darryl once but that era could have easily been a lot more successful with some better choices the previous decade.